If you’re a writer who uses Twitter, you’re probably familiar with The Creative Penn. She has one of the most useful feeds out there, offering links to everything writing.
I got to know Joanna Penn when she interviewed me for a podcast on her blog. That’s when I realized this tech-savvy English writer had a few tips that would benefit my readers.
Penn, who lives in Brisbane, Australia, has self-published three non-fiction books. At her blog, The Creative Penn, she shares her knowledge on writing, publishing options, Internet sales and book promotion.
Thanks for joining us, Joanna!
Like many of us, you have a day job and write on the side. What's your day job? How do you find time for writing?
I am actually a business IT consultant with a mining company in Australia. I work as a contractor so currently I do four days per week or sometimes three. I found that moving to four days per week enabled me to actually get the time to write my first book and have not gone back to full time since then. That extra day just gives me a big slot of time to write and meant I could manage three books in two years. I seriously recommend it to people. Just ask – you never know what your boss will say.
Finding time is hard for us all! I spend most evenings and weekends working on http://www.TheCreativePenn.com with blog posts and emails, as well as social networking and arranging interviews and speaking opportunities.
Can you tell us about your program Author 2.0? How'd you come up with the idea?
The Author 2.0 Program basically teaches writers/authors how to write, publish, sell and promote their books using Web 2.0 online tools. I decided to write the course when I realised that I was loving the online space for all this platform building, digital publishing, etc. but many other writers did not have the technical skills or enjoy it. Many people didn't even know where to start, for example, in setting up a blog, or publishing an ebook, or even what print-on-demand is. I am fortunate to be working in the IT field so I am very comfortable playing with this technology, and I wanted to help others.
I also discovered I could publish my own book on Amazon.com for under $100 and wanted to share that information with others because it changed my writing life. Then I wanted to share about blogging, podcasting, ebooks, cross-media writing, making money as an author… and so much more. So I wrote the course with 12 modules, each covering a key area of writing, publishing, sales and promotion online. Each module has an ebook with loads of written information, then there are videos per module where I show you how to do things e.g. how to create and publish an ebook, or how to use Twitter. There is also an audio interview with an expert in each module, for example, in the Author Entrepreneur module, I interview John Kremer, author of 1001 Ways to Market Your Books, as well as experts in all the other fields. The people who take the course find it packed with information and we also have monthly teleseminars for questions.
Here’s a free Blueprint for people who are interested — it contains lots more information.
Can you share a few tips for authors marketing their books?
The first thing is that you need to think of marketing as telling people who are interested in your niche that you exist and offering helpful and valuable information. If people are interested, and they like and trust you, they will buy your book/product. There are so many ways you can get yourself out there these days, and people have to find what fits them and their market. Do you love video? Audio? Twitter? Live speaking? You have to enjoy it or you just won’t do it. I was surprised to find that I actually love marketing now that I know what I am doing!
The most successful things for me personally in terms of marketing for platform building and book sales have been:
For more examples, I have a free marketing plan available for download on my site.
You're ever-so-popular with the writing community on Twitter. How'd you manage that? Got any social-networking advice?
I used to think Twitter was a waste of time and then I read Grown Up Digital by Don Tapscott. I recommend that book to anyone who doesn't “get” social networking or the social web.
So I joined Twitter around February 2009 and like everyone else, didn't have a clue how to use it. I started tweeting useful links to blog posts in my area of interest – writing, publishing, internet sales and book promotion. I found that other people found me and followed me, and also started to retweet my links (pass them on to other users). In this way, my followers started to grow.
My keys would be:
One interesting feature on your Web site is the weekly podcasts. Why do you put in the extra effort to produce them? Is this something the rest of us bloggers should consider?
Firstly for those who don't know, a podcast is an audio file that is distributed on the internet. You can download my podcasts as individual mp3 files or subscribe on iTunes.
I love my podcasts and doing those interviews adds a great deal to my own life, let alone my listeners! I love to be useful and add value so I try to interview people on topics that help writers and authors.
I initially started them because the best bloggers are multimedia (I am also doing video now) and I also wanted to learn from people myself. They are also a great marketing tool. Think about it. If you listen to me chatting away with someone for 30 mins every week, you get an understanding of who I am. You also get great content from the interview and want to come back for more. Over time, you feel like you know me, you hear me laugh and we develop a kind of relationship. All podcasters will speak of the fantastic relationships you make with podcast audiences. It's brilliant.
Also, I get to talk to some amazing people and develop relationships that go beyond email and twitter. Everyone likes to be promoted so there is benefit for the interviewee and hopefully a link back to the blog post which also helps with Search Engine Optimisation for me.
It does take extra effort as I have to find people and schedule interviews, then research the questions, do the interview and then edit and prepare the podcast and post. It probably takes two-three hours per interview which I do weekly, sometimes more often. I do it because the return is greater than the cost for all the reasons above. It also puts my voice out there in the podosphere! I am on iTunes with currently 30+ episodes and as people discover me they can check the backlist and find other interviews they like. It also gives me a platform and I can help other people. It is also fun! Podcasters are an amazing bunch of people and I fully intend to be a podcast novelist as well (once I have finished writing !)
You can see all my previous podcasts (and download them individually as mp3 files) or you can also subscribe on iTunes.
A couple of recommendations for people starting out:
Why did you decide to participate in novel-writing month? How's it going?
NaNoWriMo is National Novel Writing Month (November) and I decided to have a go because ideas have been percolating on a novel for months. I just wanted to have some dedicated time and space to get it started. I finished my last two books in February and then wrote the Author 2.0 program, so it's about time I got writing on another book. I always wanted to write fiction but have also felt intimidated by it. I have a lot to learn!
NaNoWriMo is a time of great encouragement and you feel you can write anything without judgement. I am starting my novel this month, not finishing it though. I want to spend a year developing it and getting it to a really high standard. I have so far self-published but I might have another go at traditional publishing with the novel. It's going well. I have 18,000 words so far and lots of ideas sketched out. It is a thriller – a cross between Dan Brown and James Rollins with a thread of historical truth (on the religious/psychological side) and high body count. Lots of explosions and fast paced writing! I have been doing videos and posts on my progress and lessons learned which people can see on my blog.
Thanks for all the great tips, Joanna! Hope everyone who’s reading will check out her blog — It’s well worth the time.
13 Replies to “The Creative Penn on promoting your book”
What an informative and interesting interview. I plan not only to check out her blog but all the other links as well. Thanks to you both!
Thank you both. I’m off to check things out…
This is a terrific interview. I like that she does focus on being involved with your audience. I emphasized that in a networking class I taught. The most annoying thing you can do is to only tweet about where someone can buy your book!
if i’m a writer and blogger but NOT promoting a book or interested in building some sort of emily blog world, do i need twitter? i am a skeptic. someone convince me.
Hopefully Joanna will chime in on this, but I’ve found Twitter to be useful as an information-gathering tool for whatever topic I’m interested in. For example, you could meet other voluntary simplicity folks, see what blogs and news stories they’re reading.
I know you don’t want to built a blog world, but if you create a community around what you’re interested in and tweet links to your blog, new and interesting people will visit your blog.
The key is to be useful yourself, pick a niche — like, for example, voluntary simplicity — and offer insight or helpful links. That’s when folks will want to follow you.
I’ve “met” a handful of people on Twitter who I now correspond with regularly, as well as people to interview for my blog and bloggers who have interviewed me.
Holler if you decide to join and want help!
some of my resistance is, i’m sure, based on ignorance of how twitter works. let’s say i do post about voluntary simplicity, downshifting, anticonsumerism, etc. ok, cool. but — how do people find me? how do i find them? does it work like google, where instead of googling voluntary simplicity, i pop that term into some twitter engine, and it tells me who else is twittering about voluntary simplicity? also, i hate the word tweet. 🙂
Thanks for sharing this excellent advice. This is really helpful.
Being in the IT field myself, I can see how her Author 2.0 advice would be well received by other writers looking to expand their online community of readers. Great interview and information.
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